Posts by Driving Force

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The Trinity Easily Explained in 29 Words

by maccauk in

a man can be a father .

a man can be a son.

a man can be a husband.

Update on the $4000 day fine - Padron v Watchtower

by berrygerry in

from reddit:.

this was an oral argument to dismiss the $4000/day fine.

both sides presented their arguments and now the judges will write an opinion (30 to 90 days).

I remember that all Congregation Elders were told to destroy all personal notes and evidence concerning anything to do with child abuse in the congregations, and nothing was to be left in the congregation files.
What if the WTBTS actually destroyed their records as well?

It would therefore by physically impossible for them to produce the list.

Where would that put them from a legal point of view?

72

What was the biggest thing that convinced you that

by Ponyo in

.....the truth was not the truth... ?

.

Driving Force

Well, I was "triggered" (TM Phizzy) by the money grab, and that followed on to "The BIGGEST step, .... to allow myself to start investigating the faith..." (TM Stuckinarut).

That led on to learning about the sex abuse,....... the list is very long. But the trigger came from the Borg itself.

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UK's NSPCC REJECTS 'mandatory reporting' of suspected child abuse

by darkspilver in

large article at the top of page 20 in today's - 6th november 2016 - sunday observer, the 'sister' newspaper in the uk of the guardian which only prints monday to saturday.. the national society for the prevention of cruelty to children - nspcc - is the uk's leading children's charity, specialising in child protection and are the only uk children's charity with statutory powers and that means they can take action to safeguard children at risk of abuse.. the headline in the web version is slightly different, but the rest of the article appears to be the same.

nspcc rejects plan for 'mandatory reporting' of suspected child abuse.

the government’s consultation on reporting and acting on child abuse and neglect was launched amid concerns about past abuse in some of the country’s major institutions.

Driving Force

Witch Hunt.

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If the GB changed a major teaching, would all witnesses just go along with it?

by stuckinarut2 in

so if the gb changed its "bible based beliefs" on some teaching, would witnesses all of a sudden change their individual beliefs too?.

witnesses like to claim that "their bible trained hearts and minds" make them believe as they do, but we know that the reality is that all witnesses hold their "deep seated beliefs" according to what they have been told to believe.. so what would cause the average witness to question those that dictate their "personal convictions"??.

thoughts?.

Driving Force

I think many JWs will not even notice a major doctrinal change.

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HELP needed from folks in UK, esp. in Scotland!

by WTS Archive in

jw
friends

tl;dr: if you live either in scotland or in other parts of uk and you don't mind traveling, you might be able to help a fellow ex-jw by being present during a courtcase where she alone has to face more than two dozens of jws who have ruined their business.

please contact me directly for details on when and where the court case will be held (i will know these details in few days probably).

ps.

Driving Force

Just simply not turning up for work is surely not lawful. Damages, damages, damages from each and every one of them and the WT will not help one bit.

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Potential Muslim convert

by StopTheTears in

jw
friends

about a month ago, i purchased arabic/english gospels of john that contain a commentary for muslims.. .

i went to one of my neighbors and spoke to him and gave him one.

fast forward to today, my brakes need done so i took my car to the shop, walking back into my street i saw my friend abdullah outside.. .

Driving Force

When I was "In" as a dub, my experience with Muslims was that they will not convert because every other Muslim then has the right to kill them.

I had a study with man from Afghanistan, he stopped he was threatened with retribution (death), and a man Pakistan, he was also threatened with death and stopped.

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All they did was offer magazines, how pathetic.

by Driving Force in

https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/italy/witnesses-offer-comfort-after-italy-earthquake/.

Driving Force

https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/italy/witnesses-offer-comfort-after-italy-earthquake/

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Hilarious Radio Standup By An Ex-Witness

by pale.emperor in

guys, you gotta check this out.

she explains the whole religion in a very funny way.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07x6mf3#play.

Driving Force

I liked it.

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Tell me if I'm right or wrong

by Chook in

jws say they can go anywhere in the world and they " know" that they would be shown hospitality from their fellow brothers.

of all my years as a jw i found this wasn't the case.

i honestly believe that if i turned up at any of my fellow apostates on here house and said hi i'm chook can we have a coffee, the response would be how many sugars..

Driving Force

Well lets face it, how many witnesses really do travel the world over. I traveled a lot on business when I was in. Mostly, did not even attempt to go to a KH. When I did I was generally ignored until I made the effort to talk to people, then things were OK. I think it is more to do with human beings, doing as humans do. There was never anything special about going to meet witnesses at their halls.

There was one congregation in Reno, Nevada (I live in Germany) where one brother was really nice and hospital, but thinking back now I really think he was a closet apostate. Unfortunately my business no longer takes me there.

So going back to the OP, people are the same the world over, except witnesses exclude everybody outside their cult. People are generally hospitable, but witness are not hospitable to non witnesses, and even witnesses are not as hospitable to other witnesses as other Christians are to other Christians.